An unapologetic Pastor Robert Jeffress

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http://www.reuters.com/article/2011/10/09/us-usa-campaign-jeffress-idUSTRE7982DV20111009

(Reuters) - An unapologetic Pastor Robert Jeffress, who created a stir for calling Mormonism a "cult" at a political gathering, told hundreds of congregants at his Texas megachurch on Sunday that he welcomed the opportunity he's had to warn people about a "false religion."
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My Take

It is bizarre for people with education to behave ignorantly. For, as it is, a statement without any evidence shows Jeffress lack of knowledge about both the LDS Church and about the Bible. Anytime anyone makes a statement, that individual must present evidence. That is the way the academia functions.

For Pastor Jeffress to make an accusation that a religion especially the LDS church to be false, Jeffers if he had any intellectual qualities, would take the bible and compare it with The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints. However, to make such a comparison Jeffress, would need to know about he LDS church as well.

As it is appears Jeffress knows nothing about the LDS church, unless of course his knowledge if from ex-LDS people who left because they could not get power, and they could not change themselves to follow the bible.

Sorry, Mr. Jefffress, your lack of academic qualities has exposed your true-self—simple uniformed and full of hate. Please correct me if am wrong. I have read the bible for 33 years, and also I have studied The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-Day Saints. The LDS church follows every bit of the bible, so the LDS appears to be the true religion; if we are considering which church is true of false.

Does Jeffress church follows the entire bible or is it just following the convenient parts of the bible? Appears that Mr. Jeffress comments have answered the question. For, how is Pastor Jeffress living? Is he working for a living, and preaching by sacrifice, without as salary from the congregation, like the LDS preachers—lay people? Or is Jeffress getting a salary to preach? Like every church I know except for the LDS church; though there may be some churches who preach of the love of God, for there are over five thousand religions.

If Mr. Jeffresss is getting paid to preach, or if he preaches for profit, than is statements about the LDS are just a form of job security; and the religion he preaches is not true; for in the new testament it says ’’That which you freely get, freely give” preaching is not for profit. Jeffress is simply doing what has been done for centuries.

However, if Pastor Jeffers has any sense of integrity, he must show the evident that he alludes to, about the LDS. Otherwise Pastor Jeffress’s credentials both as a pastor and as leader are as worthy as much as his statements—without merit.

Killing A US Citizen, where is the Geneva Convention

http://www.nytimes.com/2011/10/09/world/middleeast/secret-us-memo-made-legal-case-to-kill-a-citizen.html?_r=1&nl=todaysheadlines&emc=tha2
From NT Times

Secret U.S. Memo Made Legal Case to Kill a Citizen

WASHINGTON — The Obama administration’s secret legal memorandum that opened the door to the killing of Anwar al-Awlaki, the American-born radical Muslim cleric hiding in Yemen, found that it would be lawful only if it were not feasible to take him alive, according to people who have read the document.

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My Take
Where are the hypocrite democrats? They accused Bush of being trigger-happy with Iraq, and they even sided with private Bradley. Now, their man—Obama II, is a making Bush to appear like an amateur. In less than six months Obama II, has overwritten the Geneva convention by assassinating unarmed men. This is what they could not hide-how about behind the scenes? The SEALS will tell it to their buddies in about a decade, as they normally do.

Granted that both Bin Laden and Awlaki were at war with the US, but were they armed when we killed them? Bin Laden was not, and no one is alive to tell us about the US Citizen. Is the US not a signatory of the Geneva Convention?

Killing Bin Laden and dumping his body at sea saved lots of aggravation, Killing Awlaki probably saved aggravation too; but it is un-American to kill people who could have been tried and sentenced to death--by justice.

Can we in all honesty call upon the Geneva Conventions when the shoe is on the other foot? When China copies our deeds, can we tell them that they are not civilized, and that they are not respecting the law? Sorry, both the CIA and Obama II have created a very bad situation for our soldiers when the will become POWs, it will happen. Where is the liberal cry?

Answers to some comments about homosexuality and religion

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Try to see the movie--original “The Exorcist”. It is based on true a story in Connecticut about 4 decades ago. I met an Army officer, the son of the doctor who examined the girl—as the movie was based on--not a boy. Perhaps, you can see another extreme of reality.

I too have knowledge of spiritual life. The girl in CT, could at times when possessed, speak ancient languages, and she tossed a bunch of doctors as if they were dolls. Yea! You explain that with all the sophisticated technology, if you think that life is just the stage of mortality.

Logic is more than convenience. I see, that you too see much fakeness in religion, that is why I said true religion. I too, once thought similarly as you do think. On my blog I have better description of religion.
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There are thousands of religions. Many religions--especially Christian based, have all the symptoms of well developed enterprises. Many other religions appear to focus on convenience. True religion refers to those religions whose leaders and laypeople sincerely try to follow God and their scriptures, to be better people and to love others with the spirit of freedom, regardless of denomination.

Homosexual and Religious Bigotry and Irony.

http://www.alternet.org/story/152577/why_are_religious_conservatives_so_scared_of_gay_sex?akid=7644.262350.rnq6Vl&rd=1&t=8

Why Are Religious Conservatives So Scared of Gay Sex?
September 29, 2011

Anti-gay bigotry is just one piece of a larger picture of conservative fear and loathing of all forms of sexuality.
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My Take

Of course the extreme right wing are a bunch of enforcers, just as extreme are the homosexual community. It is appalling to hear both claiming victim. The homosexual community crying while trying to destroy other people’s believes, and raising the flag of fear, homophobic, and bigotry, and orientation; and then forcing their views on everybody-else. Likewise, the right wing mixes sacred things with conveniences, such as flesh-glut. The homosexual community does likewise, mixing uncontrolled desires with good choices such as vegetarianism.

What is being very obvious is the way that both extremist groups try to defend their turf without being civilized enough to respect their opponents. The right wing loses its credibility as soon as it mocks vegetarianism, the liberals lose their credibility when they disdain true-religion, and other peoples’ sacred believes. Both groups are mockers and short-sited about the truth.

Ironically, the homosexual community is much better at following the bible in the area of choice and vegetarianism than the conservatives. The conservatives appear to follow the bible only on the sacredness of marriage. Perhaps both groups can contribute honestly to our society by being less forceful.

The Old Testament shows us that sex is sacred, to be used for a special purpose; likewise, God has set bonds on the usage of sex; but, God’s has set limits, such limits are not convenient to the homosexual community. Also in the Old Testament, God shows His abhor to the usage of meat under normal circumstances, but that is not convenient to the far-right either.

When people decide to like something it turns into a habit, and then that habit becomes part of that person’s personality. The situation then keeps on snowballing into a status, into a culture; unless less people decide to stop and see if their behavior is in accord with God’s desire or commandments.

Of course, by pretending that God does not exist provides some cover, even though false cover. It is as bad as using only parts of the bible in trying to justify behavior, which both the homosexual community and the far-right community are experts at. Both groups are missing the mark. Life does continue after the body, and eternity must be the goal—as Jesus said.

REUTERS UK
Pakistan turns to China as ties with U.S. suffer
(Reuters) - Pakistan, facing a crisis in relations with the United States, appears to be seeking more support from powerful ally China.
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That is good news.

Them ungrateful pack need to learn a lesson. When Pakistan becomes an extension of Tibet, Afghanistan will have peace, and all the lawless trigger happy country-folks will kindly follow Chinese indoctrination; just like in Tibet. The world needs that.

Everybody will be happy, and China grows.

Let’s look at the positive side. Their illogical and ego centered attitude will save us billions of taxpayer dollars that can help our economy.

All that we have to do is help India in being strong.

http://www.alternet.org/story/152524/inside_the_wall_street_protests%3A_an_eyewitness_account_of_police_crackdown_on_peaceful_demonstrators?akid=7613.262350.YFsCnE&rd=1&t=5
Inside the Wall Street Protests: An Eyewitness Account of Police Crackdown on Peaceful Demonstrators
Protesters from the week-old "occupation" in New York's financial district were arrested, penned up, and Maced on Saturday when the NYPD showed up to their march.

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My Take

Episodes like the one shown in the very city where the UN is seated, is what cause people like the Haqqanis, and the Tehreek-e-Taliban Pakistan, and so may others, to see the USA as hypocrites. New York City does not represent the USA, but in the eyes of the outsiders, NYC is the USA. Shame on the NYC cops.

Of course anyone who listens to the radio in NY City can understand the NY cops are a bunch of trigger happy freaks.

When I worked in NY City, a little over a decade ago, there the news once reported about NY city cops killing an African immigrant who did not speak English, who tried to use his cell phone and the cops shored him with gunfire, because he did not understand FREEZE! In another instance, a known mentally hill Jew who pulled a hammer to the cops, got the same fate. The cops chose not to mace him. This poor guy was so hill that he was running naked, he had no weapons hiding—he had no clothes on.

However. our courts sided with the cops “They thought their lives were in danger”. What about this peaceful demonstration. The cops here appeared more sophisticated, they gas the people--peaceful demonstrators.

Where are Hillary Clinton and Barac Hussein Obama II, with their big mouths accusing everybody else of oppression? Only the Syrians, the Chineese, the Iranians, anybody else are oppressionists, yah! Right! This happened in Clinton’s backyard. She is only a few dozen miles from New York City. Worse yet, where are the all American-media, they barely mentioned it?

The problem appears to obvious; the filthy rich must not be exposed, by any price. Most likely if the same had happened in protest about anything else, the protesters would be welcomed as a symbol of American Freedom. Now we see, American freedom ends where exposing the rich starts.

Do our soldiers have access to this oppression in NY City? If ours soldiers see this will they have high moral and dedication needed to be willing to die for freedom?

Dog Biting Trainer

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An interest story, we deliver them from the Soviets, now they turna gainst us.

The following is NOT MY WRITING



http://www.dailytimes.com.pk/default.asp?page=2011\09\26\story_26-9-2011_pg7_22
Daily Times
Pakistan

Haqqani network, a US offshoot
Special Correspondent

LAHORE: The much-drummed ‘Haqqani network’ that has put the state of Pakistan in hot waters, like many other ‘freedom fighter’ groups of Afghanistan, had close links with the US supreme intelligence agency, CIA.

During the Soviet occupation of Afghanistan, the network was like Hikmatyar group, that developed links with the ‘outsiders’ to get support for establishing their military writ against the USSR, and CIA was the major financer of its activities in Afghanistan and its confidence level with the Americans raised to such a level that its head Maulvi Haqqani is thought to have even visited the White House to enjoy the hospitality of Ronald Reagan. The American military and civil leadership today blaming Pakistan government and country’s top intelligence organisation, ISI, for patronising, sharing and co-operating with the once blue-eyed of US guys is considered to be the most fatal group for US and NATO forces ‘fighting’ in Afghanistan.

The US military commanders believe that the “group is one of Afghanistan’s most experienced and sophisticated insurgent organisations” and “one of the biggest threats to NATO and United States forces...” Here is the brief introduction and history of its activities. The report is based on information gathered from different sources.

“The group is still believed to be led by Maulavi Jalaluddin Haqqani. Maulavi Haqqani is a former anti-Soviet resistance commander known for ruthless effectiveness as a fighter. His ties to Pakistan, and his base in and around Miranshah go as far back as his exile during the Republican government of Sardar Daud in early 1970s. He was initially associated with many mujahideen leaders that formed Hizb-e-Islami. When Hizb-e-Islami fractured in the late 1970s, Haqqani followed Younis Khalis rather than Hekmatyar, and became one of the most important commanders in the Hizb-e-Islami (Khalis) or HIK.

When Soviet forces invaded Afghanistan, Haqqani was in Pakistan with the other key mujahideen leaders. Haqqani later became a field commander in Maulavi Younis Khalis’s Hizb-e-Islami. He received significant support from the CIA and from Pakistan’s Inter-Services Intelligence (ISI) Directorate, and built up a sizable and competent militia force by the mid-1980s. Haqqani is believed to be influenced by radical Islamist principles drawn from the early Muslim Brotherhood in Egypt, which were prevalent among many of the religiously motivated Afghan mujahideen of that time. Maulvi Haqqani and his son Sirajuddin Haqqani run a number of madrassas and training camps in North Waziristan. Due to his father’s ill health, Sirajuddin Haqqani is reported to be in charge of the day-to-day operations of the movement.

The Haqqanis hail from the Zadran tribe, who are mostly based in Paktia and Khost provinces in the east of Afghanistan. “Their support base has always been in that area with a base in North Waziristan,” reads a report of the Institute for the Study of War.

The group proved its dominance in Khost area as the battles for Khost were fought in 1985-1987 by Haqqani men isolating the Soviet forces’ garrison at Khost early in the war, taking advantage of the fact that there was only one major road linking Khost with the rest of Afghanistan — the Khost-Gardez road that runs through the Satekandav Pass. In summer 1985, Haqqani gathered several thousand fighters and assaulted the city of Khost itself, overrunning Soviet forces’ outposts and requiring a significant Soviet counter-attack to save the city.

In 1987, the Soviet leadership decided to undertake a major effort to open the Khost-Gardez road long enough to get supplies in to the town and its garrison. Operation Magistral (Mainline), as it was called, was the major Soviet military effort of that year, overseen directly by Colonel General Boris Gromov, commander of Soviet forces in Afghanistan. Gromov made numerous attempts to negotiate with Haqqani and Zadran tribal elders to secure safe passage for supplies to Khost without fighting. It is not clear whether or not Haqqani himself participated in negotiations, but Zadran tribal elders certainly did and they drew out the discussions intentionally to allow time for their forces to react. Two weeks of hard fighting allowed the Soviet forces to secure the Satekandav Pass. The arrival of Soviet reinforcements and the elimination of a key insurgent base convinced Haqqani to withdraw his forces temporarily. The Soviets re-supplied the garrison and then withdrew from the area. By 1989, all Soviet forces had withdrawn from the country.

The available information reveals that the top leadership of the group consists of Jalaluddin Haqqani, Sirajuddin Haqqani, Badaruddin Haqqani – (younger brother of Sirajuddin), Sangeen Zadran, Nasiruddin Haqqani and others.

Different studies speak different about the strength of this group as a report published in an American newspaper indicates that “they are thought to have about 4,000 to 12,000 Taliban under their command” while a 2011 report from the Combating Terrorism Centre places its strength roughly at 10,000-15,000.

The Haqqani network is considered to be the pioneer of suicide attacks in Afghanistan and tend to use mostly foreign bombers whereas the Taliban tend to rely on locals in attacks.

The following activities are being attributed to the group:

January 14, 2008: Kabul Serena Hotel attack, March 2008: Kidnapping of British journalist Sean Langan, April 27, 2008: Assassination attempts on Hamid Karzai. July 7, 2008: US intelligence blamed the network for 2008 Indian embassy bombing in Kabul. November 10, 2008: The Kidnapping of David Rohde, December 30, 2009: Camp Chapman May 18, 2010: Kabul bombing, February 19, 2011: Kabul Bank in Jalalabad, Afghanistan, June 28, 2011:

According to ISAF, elements of the Haqqani network provided “material support” in the 2011 attack on the Hotel Inter-Continental in Kabul. The Pentagon blamed the network for the September 10 attack. A massive truck bomb explodes outside combat outpost in Sayed Abad in Wardak province, killing five Afghans, including four civilians, and wounding 77 US soldiers. US Ambassador in Afghanistan Ryan Crocker blamed the Haqqani network for a September 12 attack on the US embassy and nearby NATO bases in Kabul. The attack lasted 19 hours and resulted in the deaths of four police officers and four civilians. At least 17 civilians and six NATO soldiers were injured. Three coalition soldiers were killed.

According to a July 2011 report published by West Point’s Combating Terrorism Centre, the network acts as a key facilitator of negotiations between the Pakistani government and the Tehreek-e-Taliban Pakistan and as the “primary conduit” of many Pakistani Taliban fighters into Afghanistan.

According to US Special Envoy and Ambassador to Afghanistan (1989-1992) Peter Tomsen, the ISI has maintained its jihad era ties with Haqqanis.


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