Answers to some comments about homosexuality and religion

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Try to see the movie--original “The Exorcist”. It is based on true a story in Connecticut about 4 decades ago. I met an Army officer, the son of the doctor who examined the girl—as the movie was based on--not a boy. Perhaps, you can see another extreme of reality.

I too have knowledge of spiritual life. The girl in CT, could at times when possessed, speak ancient languages, and she tossed a bunch of doctors as if they were dolls. Yea! You explain that with all the sophisticated technology, if you think that life is just the stage of mortality.

Logic is more than convenience. I see, that you too see much fakeness in religion, that is why I said true religion. I too, once thought similarly as you do think. On my blog I have better description of religion.
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There are thousands of religions. Many religions--especially Christian based, have all the symptoms of well developed enterprises. Many other religions appear to focus on convenience. True religion refers to those religions whose leaders and laypeople sincerely try to follow God and their scriptures, to be better people and to love others with the spirit of freedom, regardless of denomination.

Homosexual and Religious Bigotry and Irony.

http://www.alternet.org/story/152577/why_are_religious_conservatives_so_scared_of_gay_sex?akid=7644.262350.rnq6Vl&rd=1&t=8

Why Are Religious Conservatives So Scared of Gay Sex?
September 29, 2011

Anti-gay bigotry is just one piece of a larger picture of conservative fear and loathing of all forms of sexuality.
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My Take

Of course the extreme right wing are a bunch of enforcers, just as extreme are the homosexual community. It is appalling to hear both claiming victim. The homosexual community crying while trying to destroy other people’s believes, and raising the flag of fear, homophobic, and bigotry, and orientation; and then forcing their views on everybody-else. Likewise, the right wing mixes sacred things with conveniences, such as flesh-glut. The homosexual community does likewise, mixing uncontrolled desires with good choices such as vegetarianism.

What is being very obvious is the way that both extremist groups try to defend their turf without being civilized enough to respect their opponents. The right wing loses its credibility as soon as it mocks vegetarianism, the liberals lose their credibility when they disdain true-religion, and other peoples’ sacred believes. Both groups are mockers and short-sited about the truth.

Ironically, the homosexual community is much better at following the bible in the area of choice and vegetarianism than the conservatives. The conservatives appear to follow the bible only on the sacredness of marriage. Perhaps both groups can contribute honestly to our society by being less forceful.

The Old Testament shows us that sex is sacred, to be used for a special purpose; likewise, God has set bonds on the usage of sex; but, God’s has set limits, such limits are not convenient to the homosexual community. Also in the Old Testament, God shows His abhor to the usage of meat under normal circumstances, but that is not convenient to the far-right either.

When people decide to like something it turns into a habit, and then that habit becomes part of that person’s personality. The situation then keeps on snowballing into a status, into a culture; unless less people decide to stop and see if their behavior is in accord with God’s desire or commandments.

Of course, by pretending that God does not exist provides some cover, even though false cover. It is as bad as using only parts of the bible in trying to justify behavior, which both the homosexual community and the far-right community are experts at. Both groups are missing the mark. Life does continue after the body, and eternity must be the goal—as Jesus said.

REUTERS UK
Pakistan turns to China as ties with U.S. suffer
(Reuters) - Pakistan, facing a crisis in relations with the United States, appears to be seeking more support from powerful ally China.
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That is good news.

Them ungrateful pack need to learn a lesson. When Pakistan becomes an extension of Tibet, Afghanistan will have peace, and all the lawless trigger happy country-folks will kindly follow Chinese indoctrination; just like in Tibet. The world needs that.

Everybody will be happy, and China grows.

Let’s look at the positive side. Their illogical and ego centered attitude will save us billions of taxpayer dollars that can help our economy.

All that we have to do is help India in being strong.

http://www.alternet.org/story/152524/inside_the_wall_street_protests%3A_an_eyewitness_account_of_police_crackdown_on_peaceful_demonstrators?akid=7613.262350.YFsCnE&rd=1&t=5
Inside the Wall Street Protests: An Eyewitness Account of Police Crackdown on Peaceful Demonstrators
Protesters from the week-old "occupation" in New York's financial district were arrested, penned up, and Maced on Saturday when the NYPD showed up to their march.

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My Take

Episodes like the one shown in the very city where the UN is seated, is what cause people like the Haqqanis, and the Tehreek-e-Taliban Pakistan, and so may others, to see the USA as hypocrites. New York City does not represent the USA, but in the eyes of the outsiders, NYC is the USA. Shame on the NYC cops.

Of course anyone who listens to the radio in NY City can understand the NY cops are a bunch of trigger happy freaks.

When I worked in NY City, a little over a decade ago, there the news once reported about NY city cops killing an African immigrant who did not speak English, who tried to use his cell phone and the cops shored him with gunfire, because he did not understand FREEZE! In another instance, a known mentally hill Jew who pulled a hammer to the cops, got the same fate. The cops chose not to mace him. This poor guy was so hill that he was running naked, he had no weapons hiding—he had no clothes on.

However. our courts sided with the cops “They thought their lives were in danger”. What about this peaceful demonstration. The cops here appeared more sophisticated, they gas the people--peaceful demonstrators.

Where are Hillary Clinton and Barac Hussein Obama II, with their big mouths accusing everybody else of oppression? Only the Syrians, the Chineese, the Iranians, anybody else are oppressionists, yah! Right! This happened in Clinton’s backyard. She is only a few dozen miles from New York City. Worse yet, where are the all American-media, they barely mentioned it?

The problem appears to obvious; the filthy rich must not be exposed, by any price. Most likely if the same had happened in protest about anything else, the protesters would be welcomed as a symbol of American Freedom. Now we see, American freedom ends where exposing the rich starts.

Do our soldiers have access to this oppression in NY City? If ours soldiers see this will they have high moral and dedication needed to be willing to die for freedom?

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An interest story, we deliver them from the Soviets, now they turna gainst us.

The following is NOT MY WRITING



http://www.dailytimes.com.pk/default.asp?page=2011\09\26\story_26-9-2011_pg7_22
Daily Times
Pakistan

Haqqani network, a US offshoot
Special Correspondent

LAHORE: The much-drummed ‘Haqqani network’ that has put the state of Pakistan in hot waters, like many other ‘freedom fighter’ groups of Afghanistan, had close links with the US supreme intelligence agency, CIA.

During the Soviet occupation of Afghanistan, the network was like Hikmatyar group, that developed links with the ‘outsiders’ to get support for establishing their military writ against the USSR, and CIA was the major financer of its activities in Afghanistan and its confidence level with the Americans raised to such a level that its head Maulvi Haqqani is thought to have even visited the White House to enjoy the hospitality of Ronald Reagan. The American military and civil leadership today blaming Pakistan government and country’s top intelligence organisation, ISI, for patronising, sharing and co-operating with the once blue-eyed of US guys is considered to be the most fatal group for US and NATO forces ‘fighting’ in Afghanistan.

The US military commanders believe that the “group is one of Afghanistan’s most experienced and sophisticated insurgent organisations” and “one of the biggest threats to NATO and United States forces...” Here is the brief introduction and history of its activities. The report is based on information gathered from different sources.

“The group is still believed to be led by Maulavi Jalaluddin Haqqani. Maulavi Haqqani is a former anti-Soviet resistance commander known for ruthless effectiveness as a fighter. His ties to Pakistan, and his base in and around Miranshah go as far back as his exile during the Republican government of Sardar Daud in early 1970s. He was initially associated with many mujahideen leaders that formed Hizb-e-Islami. When Hizb-e-Islami fractured in the late 1970s, Haqqani followed Younis Khalis rather than Hekmatyar, and became one of the most important commanders in the Hizb-e-Islami (Khalis) or HIK.

When Soviet forces invaded Afghanistan, Haqqani was in Pakistan with the other key mujahideen leaders. Haqqani later became a field commander in Maulavi Younis Khalis’s Hizb-e-Islami. He received significant support from the CIA and from Pakistan’s Inter-Services Intelligence (ISI) Directorate, and built up a sizable and competent militia force by the mid-1980s. Haqqani is believed to be influenced by radical Islamist principles drawn from the early Muslim Brotherhood in Egypt, which were prevalent among many of the religiously motivated Afghan mujahideen of that time. Maulvi Haqqani and his son Sirajuddin Haqqani run a number of madrassas and training camps in North Waziristan. Due to his father’s ill health, Sirajuddin Haqqani is reported to be in charge of the day-to-day operations of the movement.

The Haqqanis hail from the Zadran tribe, who are mostly based in Paktia and Khost provinces in the east of Afghanistan. “Their support base has always been in that area with a base in North Waziristan,” reads a report of the Institute for the Study of War.

The group proved its dominance in Khost area as the battles for Khost were fought in 1985-1987 by Haqqani men isolating the Soviet forces’ garrison at Khost early in the war, taking advantage of the fact that there was only one major road linking Khost with the rest of Afghanistan — the Khost-Gardez road that runs through the Satekandav Pass. In summer 1985, Haqqani gathered several thousand fighters and assaulted the city of Khost itself, overrunning Soviet forces’ outposts and requiring a significant Soviet counter-attack to save the city.

In 1987, the Soviet leadership decided to undertake a major effort to open the Khost-Gardez road long enough to get supplies in to the town and its garrison. Operation Magistral (Mainline), as it was called, was the major Soviet military effort of that year, overseen directly by Colonel General Boris Gromov, commander of Soviet forces in Afghanistan. Gromov made numerous attempts to negotiate with Haqqani and Zadran tribal elders to secure safe passage for supplies to Khost without fighting. It is not clear whether or not Haqqani himself participated in negotiations, but Zadran tribal elders certainly did and they drew out the discussions intentionally to allow time for their forces to react. Two weeks of hard fighting allowed the Soviet forces to secure the Satekandav Pass. The arrival of Soviet reinforcements and the elimination of a key insurgent base convinced Haqqani to withdraw his forces temporarily. The Soviets re-supplied the garrison and then withdrew from the area. By 1989, all Soviet forces had withdrawn from the country.

The available information reveals that the top leadership of the group consists of Jalaluddin Haqqani, Sirajuddin Haqqani, Badaruddin Haqqani – (younger brother of Sirajuddin), Sangeen Zadran, Nasiruddin Haqqani and others.

Different studies speak different about the strength of this group as a report published in an American newspaper indicates that “they are thought to have about 4,000 to 12,000 Taliban under their command” while a 2011 report from the Combating Terrorism Centre places its strength roughly at 10,000-15,000.

The Haqqani network is considered to be the pioneer of suicide attacks in Afghanistan and tend to use mostly foreign bombers whereas the Taliban tend to rely on locals in attacks.

The following activities are being attributed to the group:

January 14, 2008: Kabul Serena Hotel attack, March 2008: Kidnapping of British journalist Sean Langan, April 27, 2008: Assassination attempts on Hamid Karzai. July 7, 2008: US intelligence blamed the network for 2008 Indian embassy bombing in Kabul. November 10, 2008: The Kidnapping of David Rohde, December 30, 2009: Camp Chapman May 18, 2010: Kabul bombing, February 19, 2011: Kabul Bank in Jalalabad, Afghanistan, June 28, 2011:

According to ISAF, elements of the Haqqani network provided “material support” in the 2011 attack on the Hotel Inter-Continental in Kabul. The Pentagon blamed the network for the September 10 attack. A massive truck bomb explodes outside combat outpost in Sayed Abad in Wardak province, killing five Afghans, including four civilians, and wounding 77 US soldiers. US Ambassador in Afghanistan Ryan Crocker blamed the Haqqani network for a September 12 attack on the US embassy and nearby NATO bases in Kabul. The attack lasted 19 hours and resulted in the deaths of four police officers and four civilians. At least 17 civilians and six NATO soldiers were injured. Three coalition soldiers were killed.

According to a July 2011 report published by West Point’s Combating Terrorism Centre, the network acts as a key facilitator of negotiations between the Pakistani government and the Tehreek-e-Taliban Pakistan and as the “primary conduit” of many Pakistani Taliban fighters into Afghanistan.

According to US Special Envoy and Ambassador to Afghanistan (1989-1992) Peter Tomsen, the ISI has maintained its jihad era ties with Haqqanis.


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It must be a lawyers’ paradise

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http://www.space.com/13064-falling-satellite-debris-uars-nasa-property.html

From: Space.com
Not 'UARS' to Keep: NASA Warns Against Collecting Falling Satellite's Debris
by Robert Z. Pearlman, collectSPACE.com Editor

Date: 23 September 2011 Time: 01:28 PM ET


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My comment

If it is all US property, that means the US government is liable for any damage caused by its junk falling on a person, or on a house, or a car. It must be a lawyers’ paradise. If any US space junk falls on a urbanized area like LA or Chicago, it can cost NASSA some big bucks because of NASSA’s comments. The ambulance chasers will not sleep tonight.

Virginia – challenge to Federal healthcare

http://opinionator.blogs.nytimes.com/2011/09/21/breaking-news-the-civil-war-is-over/?ref=opinion&nl=opinion&emc=tya1

NY Times
Virginia – challenge to Federal healthcare
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My Take

As the United States of America keeps on polarizing towards an absolute military-sate, more states as well as more individuals will challenge the tyrant. I have had times when I did not have health care insurance. Those were the times when food was scarce, and the little borrowed money was to pay delinquent taxes and utilities.

Sometimes, I was without utilities. Once I was weight months without electricity, and because my water was from a well, I did not have power from the pump, thus my water was fetched from the town’s pond. So, another federal law forcing me to have insurance, would be taking from the little food I had.

Mitt Romney and Barack Obama with their abundance of money have no idea how people live in poverty. Just as bad, congress has guaranteed income and perks that put the name America to shame. So, the poor are not part of the American plan. The protective net is only for women disguised as Families with children. That is why women go long ways to get that kid as a source of income. “Guaranteed income”, a woman told me.

Some young girls have bragged that they will not have to work for 20 years. “They knew they were sitting on a gold mine.” A baby becomes an anchor to steady income. When that baby reaches age for mom to get a job by welfare rules, another baby will replace the first. The chain goes on, because, the guy believed she was on the pill, but for 24 years he will remember that it was all part of that woman’s plan.

Even if the father has joint custody, but if mom has physical custody, the mam has no public recourse. So in reality only some people get really hurt from Obamcare—men. Neither democrats nor republicans have any respect for the poor, especially for the male gender, another tyrant-law just hurts a few—just those who are disposable by our government—only men who are poor.

However, for whatever reason, The State of Virginia is on the right track, because only those who chose to give money to the capitalist system are free to do so; the rest who can’t afford, may opt out. We are talking about the right to choose. Only those of us who have been without work know how the system functions.

I count five jobs-shutdowns and numerous layoffs. So, Linda Greenhouse should make research into real life before writing as if forced-health care is correct in a country where people use to be free with their own money—the USA—we use to call it “the land of the free”.

Bank of America Deserves It.

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http://www.businessweek.com/news/2011-09-21/bofa-citigroup-credit-swaps-jump-after-moody-s-cuts-debt-grades.html
Blomeburg Businessnews
BofA, Citigroup Credit Swaps Jump After Moody’s Cuts Debt Grades
September 21, 2011, 4:43 PM EDT
By Sapna Maheshwari and Shannon D. Harrington
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My Bite

BofA, deserves the pinch.

They have no respect for the citizen who tried to cash a BofA check at their own branches; but the person did not have an account with Bank of America; only to force people to either get an account with BofA or deposit a BofA check elsewhere.

That was unAmerican. They did it to me twice. Let the arrogant and the oppressors fall, they deserve it.

Obama II, Finally Did Somehint Right

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http://community.nytimes.com/comments/www.nytimes.com/2011/09/22/world/obama-united-nations-speech.html#preview

NY Times
Obama, at U.N., Explains Rationale for Opposing Palestinian Statehood Bid
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My Take

Obama II, finally did something right. The question remains: was this genuine, or was it for votes in the upcoming election? Israel might have been better off, if Obama II had been Israeli-friendly. Nevertheless, hurray to Obama II, for finally calling on both Israel and Palestine to negotiate like adults.

Let’s see how Obama II, will do when Turkey starts the next war by trying militarily to break the Hamas blockade, as Turkey has stated, it would escort the next flotilla. Then, we will see in what side Obama II is sitting.

Turkey's Glass House

http://mg.co.za/article/2011-09-19-turkeys-hardline-stance-on-israel-just-tip-of-the-iceberg

Turkey's hardline stance on Israel just tip of the iceberg

From: Mail & Guardian online

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My Take

Is Turkey trying to change the world? If so, will Turkey face China too? If Israel should leave occupied territories righty theirs, by biblical history, then should China have to leave Tibet also? Turkey is indirectly rubbing Chinas nose against the sand. The law of association works naturally.

Off of all nations, Turkey is the one with the biggest glass house, so why throw stones at others.

On the end, Turkey is just returning to its primitive ways, unless Mr. Erdogan is functioning on a carnivore dinosaur instinct with a dinosaur size brain.
If Turkey is truly preoccupied with human rights and ethnic groups having their own voice, then Turkey must set dialog with the Kurdish people and return Kurdistan to the Kurds. Otherwise, Turkey is simple trying to return to its Ottoman Empire grandure.

Turkey must apologize and re-compensate the Armenians, for butchering a million Armenians. If Israel must compensate for defending itself legally according to the UN, then Turkey must compensate the Armenian people for its deliberate genocide by Turkey, the Armenians’ children are still waiting.

Turkey is the very example of the opposite of what they are claiming to fight for. In reality, since Saddam is gone, Turkey no longer needs Israel, nor the European Union, nor the USA. If a war will breakout between Iran and the EU or the USA, Iran will quickly return to its primitive instincts, and join Iran in fighting against the EU or against the US.

Turkey has reached the lowest respect, for it is being nothing more than Iran’s attack-dog.

Media Bias, Again Protecting Women

http://abcnews.go.com/US/california-hockey-mom-allegedly-sex-sons-teammates-sleepovers/story?id=14563211

California Hockey Mom Allegedly Had Sex With Son's Teammates at Sleepovers

By COLLEEN CURRY
Sept 20, 2011
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My Take

Is the media locked into the bias-box of reporting while trying to protect women? The reporting and headline about the “accused” Hokey-Mom sexual adventures sure appears to be so. If the same story was about a father, having sex with his daughters’ friends’, the headline most likely would read something like: “Father Commits Statutory Rape with Daughter’s Teammates”.

However, as usual the media does all it can to paint women as innocent, if not painting women as the victims. I would not be surprised if someone will allude that the boys were the instigators and raped the “poor” Hockey-Mom. The Hummer Mom in Slat-Lake actually blamed her victim: “I didn't start it. I didn't touch anything back. It was him. ‘He started it,’ she said.” Yet the police believed the opposite.

ABC News that story--the Hummer Mom also used emotion to paint the Hummer Mom as almost the victim. ABC News in neither article uses harsh words as the media normally uses for such acts when committed by men. The summary from ABC on the Hummer Mom taking her daughter’s boy-friend, happened because the woman was tired. Those were the accused’s words.

Since when do the media publish men’s excuses of being tired that lead to statutory rape? What ABC News is implying is the feminist mantra “Poor woman”. Coincidentally, the Hockey Mom sexual story is tagged automatically on with video news of women being neglected sexually by their husbands. What a coincidence?

It appears that ABC News is really using all the cards in the deck to convince the world that men are at fault for women behaviors. A male guest in the show, a sexual behaviors “professional” sure was bashing men in full force. ABC and its guest should at least make research on family violence; the story would be written differently, and it would report on how much men are being abused by their wives and by our shameful judicial system.

Marriage is a sacred contract with a purpose

http://www.nytimes.com/2011/09/17/us/pat-robertson-remarks-on-alzheimers-stir-passions.html


From: NY Times
Robertson Stirs Passions With Suggestion to Divorce an Alzheimer’s Patient
By ERIK ECKHOLM
Published: September 16, 2011

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My Take

Marriage for convenience is one of the most shameful of all acts in Christianity. When two people make a contract, each party depends on the honesty of the other—it is based on trust; Mr. Robertson’s advice on marriage should not be different.

However, now, marriage has become a burden to a man who seems to claim following Christ, but who is trying to be running away from his test. Christ did not say that to follow Him would be pleasant; rather he said: “Take you cross and follow me.” We are in this world to prove who we really are.

Robertson’s response to a man in grief was not about faith. It sounded more about being faithful when convenience is present. Now, how about the sic wife, who will care for her—a nursing home? One has to talk to nursing-home workers before such statement. Was not the agreement “ … for better or for worse, in sickness or health …? That sic spouse’s relatives should considering suing the husband, for breach of contract if that divorce materializes.

Where is the love that the sic spouse needs at this critical time? Love is not there from that Husband. The agreement is biding. But surprisingly, the advice comes from a man who has used the name of Jesus Christ as if he was a true believer. Mr. Robertson has not read Ephesians 5:25, or if he did he is neglecting it. Nor has he read Mathew 19:8-9, where Jesus states that divorce was not from the beginning --not to occur unless because adultery.

Some of the article’s comments support the healthy spouse to be able to remarry to go on with their happiness. If such happiness [selfishness] is essential to go on, does it mean discard ing the sick spouse? That means that the ultimate reason for marriage is being disregarded--unity.

Yes, it touches the case of multiple spouses, but if extended marriage was part of the agreement there is no problem. For, unfortunately open marriages are on the rise, though secretly; but at times implied, if it comes from the Hollywood crowd. However, if such agreement is made in soberness, it should be to the greatest happiness for each. Nonetheless, disposing of a sick spouse like disposing of a worn-out pencil, is being unchristian; and Christ advised for one-spouse marriage.

Now, is the time for Christians to prove on what side each person is on. Nevertheless, Jesus stated: “By their fruits you shall know them”. Robertson’s advice also raises another question: Are these tell-evangelists preaching to save souls as Christ focused on—eternal life, or are they a bunch of capitalists cashing in on convenience to please the audience, and to get more followers and thus, getting more money; and getting glory on the eyes of the world?

Any true religion follows the entire bible with focus on being Christ-like, rather than focusing on lustful material conveniences.

How Christ-like would it have been if Robertson would have advised the tormented man to pray and ask God for guidance, and ask to be able to love his wife, and be able to go on with life. That would be the ultimate test of true love, and following Christ.

Patriarchy

http://www.alternet.org/story/152393/my_life_as_a_daughter_in_the_christian_patriarchy_movement_--_how_i_was_taught_to_obey_men%2C_birth_8_kids_and_do_battle_against_secular_america/comments/
FROM Alternet
By Libby Anne
My Life as a Daughter in the Christian Patriarchy Movement
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My Take

Why has the topic from patriarchy been hijacked onto vegetarianism.

However, I must join the present argument, defending vegetarianism: It is a healthier diet, it is cheaper if the individual wants to grow his/her own.
Takes seven acres to feed a carnivore person a year, while it takes one acre to feed a vegetarian, so where is the logic?

The problem is that carnivores are gluts under the primitive animal instinct that you have to eat another animal to live. The strongest animals who also live the longest are vegetarians.

All it takes is a bit of learning how to prepare healthy vegetarian food and your health will improve, if you eat a balanced diet. I have been on both sides of the fence. And anyone who wants to research will agree with me.

Now to the topic of Patriarchy.

What Libby Anne wrote appears as if it were fiction. I have visited many churches of various denominations, and all I saw was woman worshiping. Man in those churches were constantly being bashed. Therefore whatever odd church Anne, was raised in seems off the norm.

Nevertheless, anyone who reads the bible will find that patriarchy in the bible is not what is used in Anne’s church. In the bible, Abraham was told by God to listen to his wife, when Sarah was sending away her Egyption slave and her son from Abraham.

Likewise, Isaac did not do what he wanted. Rebecca his wife had a lot of saying. Jacob did not have a choice in his wives; all he wanted was Rachel, and then ended up with four wives by Leah and Rachel and their father’s doing. They even sold him to each other. He conferred with his wives before he returned to his land.
So where is the Patriarchy problem?

While the bible places man as the ad of the family, it also places man as leading by example and even dying for his wife. Such is not required of women. Is it not equality?

Perhaps, what Libby Anne needs is to read the bible and stay way from false churches. They can’t all be the truth. There are many churches that are nothing more than a business under the name of Christianity.

Ho! By the way, if you read the bible you will find that God intended for people to be eating vegetables as a primary source of food. The same gluts with animal instincts who mock vegetarians are the same that use tyranny in the name of patriarchy and in the name of Christianity. As Jesus stated in the New Testament: Be aware of wolves in sheeps’ clothes.

Israel will not be distroyed this time.

http://www.haaretz.com/print-edition/news/israel-is-paying-for-gaza-war-with-turkey-and-egypt-crises-1.383688
From: Haaretz.com
Sun, September 11, 2011 Elul 12, 5771

Israel is paying for Gaza war with Turkey and Egypt crises
During that fateful Hanukkah, the Israel Defense Forces attacked failing to see that war on their televisions as people saw it in Istanbul and Cairo.
By Gideon Levy
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My take

Israel will be destroyed, or will it?

Anyone reading the bible will say that Israel has the tendency of being self-destructible. Yet, each time Israel was destroyed, the Israelites had so much self confidence that they kept on repeating another cycle of predicted failure.

According to the bible, Israel’s problems only came after Israel adapted sinful traditions.

Anyone reading the bible and reading the news today can see that Israel is now more sinful than its enemies—the Muslims. Contrary to all its non-Jew neighbor nations, Israel has adapted what is forbidden in the bible—homosexuality as a common practice--homosexual marriage.

From the biblical viewpoint, we see that if Israel would stay within the perimeters set by its Creator—God, Israel would prosper, if they would deviate, they would be attacked. Sometimes there were scattered and taken captive. Well, history speaks for itself as recorded in the bible. It has happened time and time again.

As prophesied, Israel would be restored, and it was so. Gog and Magog also will be fighting against Israel. On an old map I saw, Gog was placed in modern Turkey—definitely a northern country. Turkey also is now on the league with Iran, an Iran with Syria. What a coincidence?

Am I reading too much into the bible? Well, I am just noticing the coincidence that after Israel officially adapter the homosexual agenda, Israel’s friends in the area started to hate Israel—Turkey and Egypt.

This is starting to be very interesting. Turkey has stated that its navy will patrol the southern seas, and Turkey is verbally all over Israel with threats. It has ousted Israel’s ambassador, and cancelled military treats. Egypt has burned Israel’s embassy.

However, if the scripture is being fulfilled, than Gog—Turkey better not attack Israel, because they will lose, according to the bible—the bible has been very accurate.

Since both Turkey and Israel are US allies, the US will not rush in helping Israel as it has done each time the Muslims have attacked Israel.

However, the Jewish nation can defend itself. During the last war with Egypt, Israel assembled around two hundred nuclear bombs, a newspaper said. But, that was near 40 years ago. One can only suppose that the stash has grown. So, Iran is using Turkey as its attacking dog, perhaps because Iran know that the Jews can outsmart them.